Joe and Jon and the Not “Marvel Stuff”

Joe Sinnott holding a splash page from Sabrina the Teenage Witch #15, October 1973

Joe Sinnott produced a huge volume of art in addition to his massive output for Marvel. Joe worked, without credit, on many pages of Archie Comics, helping his good friend Jon D’Agostino with inking jobs, as explained in an interview excerpt you’ll find here.

https://alphabettenthletter.blogspot.com/2022/04/comics-jon-dagostino-colorist-artist.html

Working from Joe’s own logbook, my best buddy Denro took it upon himself to identify all of Joe’s work for Archie. The catch? Joe was able to write down only the names of the stories he worked on. Not even the titles of the books, let alone the issue numbers could be noted. Why? Because the publisher took the stories into inventory and didn’t necessarily know where they would end up appearing. Denro provides more information.

Jon D’Agostino lettered the stories and inked the faces, to maintain his “look” and to keep the characters on model. Then Joe would ink the rest of the figures, in most cases, and ink all of the backgrounds. So, the page was mostly done by Joe, but the characters would have Jon’s look – and of course the look of the penciller. This was the 1969 to 1973 era, when Archie was putting out a ton of books. Jon D’Agostino took on a ton of work and called on Joe when he had too many pages to do.

Joe just recorded the name of the story and how many pages he did. That’s the list I worked from to find the stories in the various Archie titles. It would have been a lot easier today, as most Archies have been indexed in the Grand Comic Database. But back then, when I did it, there was not much info. They actually used my info in the database, as they took it from Joe’s [now deleted] website, which was my info. Technically, they are incorrect in the database, as they credit the inks solely to Joe. It should be Joe AND Jon D’Agostino. But there’s so many issues to correct.

This story was penciled by Stan Goldberg, who was more commonly known as Stan G.

I was tempted to start this post with, “An Irishman, an Italian, and a Jew walk into a bar,” referring to Joe, Jon, and Stan respectively. But I thought better of it. 😉

Green Lantern and Green Arrow

Only an hour after my last post, there came the stunning news that Neal Adams has died at age 80.

Jack Kirby was the most influential comic book artist of the 1960’s, and Neal Adams was certainly the most influential of the ’70’s.

After Gil Kane left DC to work for Marvel full-time, Adams took over drawing Green Lantern in a series reboot with Green Arrow.

Neal Adams, pencil and ink
Green Lantern #76, April 1970

About five years ago I was at a convention in Rhode Island with Joe Sinnott, his family, and a group of our friends. By then Joe needed a wheelchair to cover longer distances, and I enjoyed wheeling him around. (I was doing the same thing for my father in Arizona.)

Joe was scheduled to appear on a panel, and as we were heading to the end of the hall, Joe and Neal spotted each other. Joe wanted me to take him over to see Neal at his table, and once those two old pros got started talking, there was just no stopping them.

As reluctant as I was to break up their mutual admiration society, after I-don’t-know-how-long, I started to pull back on Joe’s chair to hint that we needed to go. Joe gave me the okay, he and Neal said their good-byes, and we were on our way to a late arrival at the panel discussion. As we entered the room everybody applauded and Joe waved to his fans. This is probably my all-time favorite fanboy memory.

Thor #180, September 1970

Adams… was honored in the Inkwell Awards Joe Sinnott Hall of Fame in 2019.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/neal-adams-dead-dies-comic-book-artist-1235254617/

Ten Years After

Courtesy of my ol’ pal Denro, this picture was taken almost exactly ten years ago at a comic book convention we attended in New York with Joe Sinnott. It was a happy time, with Joe and Stan hale and hearty and doing great.

Alex Saviuk, Joe Sinnott, Stan Lee

I used David Bowie’s “Five Years” for my Five Years post. What can I do here that’s similar? Oh, I know!

After Disney bought Marvel, Joe’s retirement checks came from Disney, and he’d joke about being a Disney artist. Joe would have gotten a kick from knowing this old photo of himself makes an appearance on Disney+.

I’ve Got An Inkling

My Economics advisor at the small college I attended liked teaching there because he could express his views on Political Economy without getting in trouble. Avoiding trouble is also the reason I prefer having my old weblog to posting on fan forums.

Some of the controversies regarding classic comic books concern the various combinations of pencil artists and inkers. Here is an excellent comparison of original pencil art to finished inks.

comic book panel
Unused art for Daredevil #24, Pencils by Gene Colan, Inks by Frank Giacoia

Frank Giacoia was a top-notch professional. His direct and distinctive inking style was unmistakable, while adhering to the original pencils. Stan Lee often credited Joe Sinnott as “Embellisher,” rather than as an inker. On the left is a face drawn by Jack Kirby that Frank inked, and on the right is the same character as inked by Joe.

(L) From FF #97, pg. 10, panel 1 / (R) From FF #46, pg. 18, panel 4

A few years separate these two examples. In that time Jack had adjusted his drawing to accommodate the switch to smaller original art — from 12″x16″ to 10″x15″ — but I think it’s still a valid comparison.

Joe said he sometimes felt he put too much of his own style on Jack’s faces. But Stan brought Joe back to Marvel to ink “The World’s Greatest Comic Magazine” for a reason. As I liked to tell Joe, his “friendly faces” were the very thing that got me started reading the Fantastic Four. Here’s a picture I took looking over Joe’s shoulder as he drew Superman for a fan five years ago. As you can see, Joe inked exactly the same way that he drew.

pencil sketch

Stan said he liked to see how artists handled mundane, everyday scenes. Here’s a panel from a Captain America story, half of it taken up with Stan’s dialogue, that shows how perfectly Joe enhanced Jack’s art, adding expressive subtlety to the faces.

TOS #95, “A Time to Die — A Time to Live!” pg. 4, panel 2